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0339 India and Tibet : vol.1
インドとチベット : vol.1
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INTERVIEW WITH REGENT   273

here, to explain them to them. I had now been ten days

at Lhasa ; they had not yet come to talk to me about

them ; and I had heard from the Resident that, so far from

showing any inclination to agree with them, they had

written about them in very impertinent terms. They

must not be surprised, therefore, that my patience was

exhausted. The terms which I had shown them were

issued by command of the British Government, and no

reference to His Excellency the Viceroy would have the

slightest effect in modifying them.

The next day I had a much more interesting interview.

The Ti Rimpoche himself came to see me. He was the

Chief Doctor of Divinity and Metaphysics of Tibet, and

was an old and much respected Lama, to whom the Dalai

Lama had left his seals of office and whom he had

appointed Regent. He remembered seeing Huc and Gabet

as a boy, and he was a cultured, pleasant-mannered,

amiable old gentleman, with a kindly, benevolent expres-

sion. He was accompanied by the Nepalese representa-

tive, and brought with him a present of gold-dust and

some silk from the Dalai Lama's brother.

After some polite observations, he asked me whether

we English believed in reincarnation. I said we believed

that when we died our bodies remained here and our souls

went up to heaven. He said that that might happen

to the good people, but where did the bad people go to ?

I replied that we had no bad : we were all good. He

laughed, and said that, at any rate, he hoped that both of

us would be good during this negotiation. 'Then we

might both go to heaven. I said I had not the smallest

doubt that we should.

He then said he would have liked to come and see me

before, but was afraid of the Sha-pés. He told me how he

had been hastily summoned by the Dalai Lama a few weeks

ago, but on his arrival had found the Dalai Lama had fled.

He had greatly disliked taking up political business, for

he had spent his whole life in religious study, and was

altogether ignorant of the methods of public affairs. But

the Sha-pés and people in the palace had given him a

message from the Dalai Lama, handing over the Dalai

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